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EchoRing Interview BoboSama

JaG says:

<BEGIN INTERVIEW>

JaG says:

Bobosama. How did you discover abandonware? And how did you first get involved with it?

BoboSama says:

Back in 98 or 99 I had discovered a site known as OldNet which featured a mixture of Abandonware and OldWarez such as Discworld, Doom, etc. I had visited the site for about a year thinking it was godly when one day an announcement was posted that the site had closed. One of their affiliates was a site known as 3k Industries so I clicked on the link and was redirected to Diskworld

BoboSama says:

Diskworld was a pure Abandonware site, it was currently at version 2.0. I found the design and content to be of the highest quality. From there I spanned off to find sites such as Classic Trash and the Home of the Underdogs. However, I was still an OldWarez fella and began a site known as Anime-Crib Abandonware. I ran an Abandonware site in early 99 and had a year left on the domain so I used it

BoboSama says:

The site lasted for about two weeks and I had contacted Diskboy to affiliate with him

BoboSama says:

he told me that my site had OldWarez and from there I found out all about clean Abandonware

BoboSama says:

at first, I wanted to create a site with thousands of games

BoboSama says:

I also wanted something that nobody had done

BoboSama says:

so I spent a few weeks downloading thousands of Apple IIe ROMS

BoboSama says:

testing them, zipping them

BoboSama says:

and started a site known as Anime-Crib Apple IIe Abandonware

BoboSama says:

it was purely HTML based with a layout consisiting of some frames and a single background image

BoboSama says:

I had over 2000 titles with nothing but file sizes, publisher names and download links.

BoboSama says:

It was this site that joined 4Ham and Diskworld initially (I hadn’t joined any rings yet)

BoboSama says:

Then I had come to realize the importance of screenshots and reviews for creating a quality site

BoboSama says:

Diskworld had just unleashed V3 and I payed Diskboy to create me a php coded site

BoboSama says:

we came up with the name wizardware and I bought the domain wizardware.org

BoboSama says:

so, the site known as WizardWare AbandonWare came to be

BoboSama says:

the reviews were short, the screenshots few

BoboSama says:

it received poor ratings and I was infuriated

BoboSama says:

I wanted to create a 4 to 5 star site, not a 2 star site

BoboSama says:

I realized that I must do it myself if I will ever become trully dedicated to the site

BoboSama says:

Diskboy had unleashed Diskworld V4 when I had closed WizardWare

BoboSama says:

He let me keep the name “EmuGateway” which he thought up for a site that never took off

BoboSama says:

Through some Streamload message boards I was sent 89 Neo-Geo roms

BoboSama says:

I was stunned by their quality and the fact that the system was abandoned and so little known

BoboSama says:

I had contacted NeoPickaze being a big fan of EchoRing and asked him if he could help me out with a layout for EmuGateway

BoboSama says:

he had previously made a layout for WizardWare V2.0 (back in 01) but I decided not to go through with it.

BoboSama says:

I had learned ASP, modified Neo’s template, bought the domain emugateway.com and unleashed the website

BoboSama says:

By its final days, the site had an impressive 79 games with full reviews and 5 screenshots each along with cheat codes and manuals.

BoboSama says:

It was well approved and beloved by all, receiving 500+ uniques a day

BoboSama says:

I prefered to call it my one success up until that day

BoboSama says:

But an average Neo-Geo game is about 10mb

BoboSama says:

and with that many visitors I soon couldnt afford the bill

BoboSama says:

so I was forced to close down the site

BoboSama says:

I attempted to reopen with only small games but the site lost its popularity because of that and eventually closed again with only 21 titles

BoboSama says:

I had reviewed 5 or so Neo-Geo games for Diskworld as I was given ownership of version 5.0. I had optimized a few things and updated a bit when I realized the same thing I realized with WizardWare, I did not create this, it doesnt belong to me, I have no connection to it and thus no motivation

BoboSama says:

For a while I simply sat around doing nothing

BoboSama says:

I had various people submit WizardWare 2.0 layouts but I wanted to create one myself

BoboSama says:

Before EmuGateway Gianni and I founded Creative-Eye

BoboSama says:

we had ripped off the layout from another site and got busted and combined with server troubles we split our different ways

BoboSama says:

however, Gianni had recommended me Fireworks MX as a program for image editing

BoboSama says:

since that day, I have been using it for all my graphics works

BoboSama says:

I fired up Fireworks MX on my Mac and in 4 hours of work came up with my own WizardWare 2.0 layout

BoboSama says:

I spent several weeks doing the code and bullet proofing it

BoboSama says:

Finally it was unleashed

BoboSama says:

but I no longer had the inertia to update after a database failure

BoboSama says:

so I added all the Neo-Geo games to it from an old database

BoboSama says:

and sold it off to Gianni

BoboSama says:

thats it if I dont mention Echo

JaG says:

Wow, quite a story indeed.  But, now, I would like to know how you got the idea to resurrect EchoRing. Or why you were interested in running an abandonware ring, in general.

BoboSama says:

Back in the glory days of EmuGateway, Gianni was starting up the Emulation Ring

BoboSama says:

So I had decided to expand the EmuGateway into an EmuNetwork of sites

BoboSama says:

so I decided to create a ring known as EmuWare

BoboSama says:

I intended for it to be original but all of the things I incorporated had been done before

BoboSama says:

I was bashed my other ring owners as happens often when starting a new ring

BoboSama says:

we were just starting to pickup with about 7 or 8 members when I had to take down EmuGateway

BoboSama says:

and without the Network,

BoboSama says:

I saw no reason for EmuWare

BoboSama says:

I had only recently opened WizardWare 2.0 to find EchoRing hasnt been updated for once by its new owners

BoboSama says:

I was simply outraged

BoboSama says:

I was also thinking about reopening ACRing a few weeks back but I didnt think I could live up to the expectations

BoboSama says:

Vinny the Saint and I got a talking about buying back the ring but we had no reply from the owners

BoboSama says:

so he had said he has the .co.uk domain and he could lend it to me if I were to create a new EchoRing

BoboSama says:

jumping at the opportunity, in just under a week I designed and coded the ring

BoboSama says:

After some initial server trouble we were up and running with more members in the first few days than a lot of other rings which had recently opened

BoboSama says:

some people disapproved of the ring, others though there was no point to it while the true echo fans were delighted to see it ressurected

BoboSama says:

in the end, everyone came around in one way or another and EchoRing has prospered

JaG says:

Again, it’s really quite interesting, all these happenings of yours.  And there isn’t really any other specific thing I’d like to ask. So, if there’s anything else you want to say, go ahead.

BoboSama says:

Haha, what a great interviewer you are .

BoboSama says:

Basically, like all people who enter the scene

BoboSama says:

I wanted to open the next HOTU, to get big and famous

BoboSama says:

but I didnt know the inner workings and who to trust

BoboSama says:

how that im more mature and better adapted I hope to open up a big site in the future

BoboSama says:

with a big crew and high quality

BoboSama says:

so stay tuned.

BoboSama says:

anymore questions?

JaG says:

Oh, yeah. That’s the other thing I was gonna ask. Any plans for the future?  Well, now that we know that there very well may be, we’ll all be lying in wait to see what happens. Thanks for your time, Bobosama. Hope EchoRing lives on!

JaG says:

<END INTERVIEW>